Tucker Carlson to Evangelicals: You'be been Duped
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THE CHRIS MATTHEWS SHOW. October 8, 2006 With Tucker Carlson, Andrew Sullivan |
CARLSON: That's right, and I think around the country. On the other hand, this president has had a pretty aggressive, for a Republican, gay outreach for one. I mean, they actually had an office of...
SULLIVAN: Are you kidding me?
CARLSON: I'm sure. Every federal agency in Washington, all presided over by President Bush, has a Gay Pride day, every single one of them. So the point is, look, I don't think it's gay rights that is alienating the right. It's immigration and it's abortion. This president has done nothing to curb abortion and that infuriates evangelicals and he's aggressively abetted the illegal immigration, which means the rest of the real conservatives angry.
Mr. SULLIVAN: Well, the other thing is he's presided over this enormous spending...
CARLSON: Which has made the libertarians mad..........
CARLSON: It goes deeper than that though. The deep truth is that the elites in the Republican Party have pure contempt for the evangelicals who put their party in power. Everybody in...
MATTHEWS: How do you know that? How do you know that?
CARLSON: Because I know them. Because I grew up with them. Because I live with them. They live on my street. Because I live in Washington, and I know that everybody in our world has contempt for the evangelicals. And the evangelicals know that, and they're beginning to learn that their own leaders sort of look askance at them and don't share their values.
MATTHEWS: So this gay marriage issue and other issues related to the gay lifestyle are simply tools to get elected?
CARLSON: That's exactly right. It's pandering to the base in the most cynical way, and the base is beginning to figure it out. (Unintelligible)......
Mr. SULLIVAN: The right is right to be mad about this. They have been duped by these people, and now they're venting and they have every right to vent.
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